Thats beautiful really moving i didn't think I would make it after serious suicide attempts. I'm so glad I stayed for me. Gosh the trees books music u don't think of these things . Will it be every week? X❤️ lovely to hear your voice u sound so kind .
Oh, Mesa. Thank you for this. It's sad and beautiful. Your reading hurts my heart and I'm sure it offers hope to many. For the trees. For the night sky. For love.
I’ve loved hearing your voice in your posts but to literally hear it was just wonderful. My heart is so happy you have found your reasons to stay. I had always wished my dad had chosen me as that reason. Unfortunately, it was not to be. The movement I’ve started Persistent Courage is to help others find the courage to love themselves, others and to find the humanity in others. Please know we all need you to stay dear Mesa. I love you!! ❤️
Thank you Sondra ❤️ I'm so sorry he didn't stay, my mom and dad didn't either, I know the pain all too well. I'm not going anywhere now, that's a promise ❤️❤️ Love you and your Persistent Courage ❤️❤️
I’m so so sorry that you had to experience that pain too, my dear friend. My heart is bursting with happiness for you and for all of us that love you so much! ❤️❤️
I’m glad you’re here Mesa. As a counselor who has worked to help dozens and dozens of kids and teens with suicidal ideation, by the grace of God tried to remind them of reasons to stay, thank you for this ..would love to connect more sometime ❤️.
This is such an important topic, thanks for continuing to show up like you do, brave and real and approachable.
I have never attempted suicide. But I have thought about it more times than I can count. And there have been so many of those times that if I had access to a gun or a large amount of narcotics, I might not still be here.
My point, I think, is that it is it is such an important conversation because more people than we imagine suffer from suicidal thoughts, ideation, and even attempts. And to answer an earlier question, for me, it never had anything to do with getting attention. It was because I was overwhelmed, saw no way out, and just wanted to leave, to disappear, as you said.
I loved listening to you read your own writing. You've got a great voice, very calm and reassuring. My heart sank when the suicide death was confirmed, even though I suspected it was coming. I never want to get used to hearing that someone has died violently. I don't want to be dulled to the pain, that is where my humanity lives. Thank you for this gift Mesa. I can't wait to hear more. XO 🥰🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️
Thank you my sweet friend! I'll never be numb to it. I think my husband has to desensitize himself to it because of his job.. but every time he's got the scanner on it instantly makes me aware of the humanity around Us.
Have you found that often suicide is a desperate call for attention? For many, seeking attention is the purpose of much of what we do. Satisfaction for what we have done, of appreciation of the things that bring us happiness, as you said is or can be a reason to keep going. For me, it is about the hope of having more great memories to experience and recall. Whether due to people, love, pets, or iconic images of nature, they all instill memories that can be recalled in times of such need. Even recollections of memories that include other people long gone from our life are just as beautiful and meaningful to us. The thought of not being able to build new memories is what I thought about when listening to your first podcast. Hope for the future, and the ability to replay the music that means the most to you for whatever reason, whether nostalgia or night dreams or reminders of “days of future past” can make you happy to be alive.
Hey Kenneth! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts.
My attempts were not to gain attention, I literally wanted to disappear. My parents deaths weren't for attention either, they were battling their minds and lost. I got lucky and failed in my attempts. I was able to seek help for my mental health.
Can people use threats of suicide to gain attention? Yes. But the ones who are suicidal and take action, aren't really thinking about what kind of attention they're getting. They literally just want their pain to end and usually don't want anyone to know. From my own experiences as well as studying suicide/suicidal ideation for my psych degree it's not necessarily a cry for help. The cry for help came before the attempt.
Yes, I understand what you are saying. Being unable to end their pain themselves, to me, requires seeking and accepting outside help. Much like you did. Seeking someone to pay attention to your pain, or call greater attention from others to your seemingly insoluble problem or pain is just one of many causes, I believe, in suicides.
Thank you for sharing this and for this podcast! I’m grateful to not be in a place of suicidal ideation but still this list helped me ground into gratitude. I’m sure you will help a lot of people!
It's absolutely hard to be optimistic when our brains tend towards negativity, it's the amygdala that gets us when we're not able to see beyond the moment we might be in. I spent over a decade training my brain to keep myself alive. I STILL battle these thoughts.
All I can do is try to spread a little hope to anyone who needs it.
That was beautiful and sadly comforting. Thank you for sharing with us. ❤️
Thank you Dawn ❤️❤️❤️
Thats beautiful really moving i didn't think I would make it after serious suicide attempts. I'm so glad I stayed for me. Gosh the trees books music u don't think of these things . Will it be every week? X❤️ lovely to hear your voice u sound so kind .
Thank you so much Phoenix! I'm so glad you're here ❤️❤️
Such an important issue to highlight x ❤️
This is beautiful ✍️❤️
Thank you so much❤️❤️
Thank you, Mesa!
As someone who is "in crisis" almost daily, please know that you just provided me (and others) with a "little bit of hope."
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Oh Leslie 😭❤️ Sending you so much love.
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Oh, Mesa. Thank you for this. It's sad and beautiful. Your reading hurts my heart and I'm sure it offers hope to many. For the trees. For the night sky. For love.
Big love to you Eileen <3 Thank you for being here <3
I’ve loved hearing your voice in your posts but to literally hear it was just wonderful. My heart is so happy you have found your reasons to stay. I had always wished my dad had chosen me as that reason. Unfortunately, it was not to be. The movement I’ve started Persistent Courage is to help others find the courage to love themselves, others and to find the humanity in others. Please know we all need you to stay dear Mesa. I love you!! ❤️
Thank you Sondra ❤️ I'm so sorry he didn't stay, my mom and dad didn't either, I know the pain all too well. I'm not going anywhere now, that's a promise ❤️❤️ Love you and your Persistent Courage ❤️❤️
I’m so so sorry that you had to experience that pain too, my dear friend. My heart is bursting with happiness for you and for all of us that love you so much! ❤️❤️
Beautiful my dear friend! I’m so happy that I exist in a universe where you do. You are so loved! 🥰💜
Thank you!!! Love you so much ❤️❤️❤️
I’m glad you’re here Mesa. As a counselor who has worked to help dozens and dozens of kids and teens with suicidal ideation, by the grace of God tried to remind them of reasons to stay, thank you for this ..would love to connect more sometime ❤️.
Oh Julie, thank you for your kindness. Thank you helping the littles stay ❤️
And absolutely, would love to connect more!
Thank you, Mesa.
This is such an important topic, thanks for continuing to show up like you do, brave and real and approachable.
I have never attempted suicide. But I have thought about it more times than I can count. And there have been so many of those times that if I had access to a gun or a large amount of narcotics, I might not still be here.
My point, I think, is that it is it is such an important conversation because more people than we imagine suffer from suicidal thoughts, ideation, and even attempts. And to answer an earlier question, for me, it never had anything to do with getting attention. It was because I was overwhelmed, saw no way out, and just wanted to leave, to disappear, as you said.
My friend.. I'm so so so glad you're here. Thank you for sharing your experience and thank you for staying ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for staying! <3
I loved listening to you read your own writing. You've got a great voice, very calm and reassuring. My heart sank when the suicide death was confirmed, even though I suspected it was coming. I never want to get used to hearing that someone has died violently. I don't want to be dulled to the pain, that is where my humanity lives. Thank you for this gift Mesa. I can't wait to hear more. XO 🥰🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️
Thank you my sweet friend! I'll never be numb to it. I think my husband has to desensitize himself to it because of his job.. but every time he's got the scanner on it instantly makes me aware of the humanity around Us.
Looking forward to sharing more !! ❤️❤️❤️
This is so good and important. Many of your reasons in this one are ones I relate to/share. ❤️
Thank you Bonnie 💙 I'm so glad to share the same reasons as you!! 💙
Have you found that often suicide is a desperate call for attention? For many, seeking attention is the purpose of much of what we do. Satisfaction for what we have done, of appreciation of the things that bring us happiness, as you said is or can be a reason to keep going. For me, it is about the hope of having more great memories to experience and recall. Whether due to people, love, pets, or iconic images of nature, they all instill memories that can be recalled in times of such need. Even recollections of memories that include other people long gone from our life are just as beautiful and meaningful to us. The thought of not being able to build new memories is what I thought about when listening to your first podcast. Hope for the future, and the ability to replay the music that means the most to you for whatever reason, whether nostalgia or night dreams or reminders of “days of future past” can make you happy to be alive.
Hey Kenneth! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts.
My attempts were not to gain attention, I literally wanted to disappear. My parents deaths weren't for attention either, they were battling their minds and lost. I got lucky and failed in my attempts. I was able to seek help for my mental health.
Can people use threats of suicide to gain attention? Yes. But the ones who are suicidal and take action, aren't really thinking about what kind of attention they're getting. They literally just want their pain to end and usually don't want anyone to know. From my own experiences as well as studying suicide/suicidal ideation for my psych degree it's not necessarily a cry for help. The cry for help came before the attempt.
Yes, I understand what you are saying. Being unable to end their pain themselves, to me, requires seeking and accepting outside help. Much like you did. Seeking someone to pay attention to your pain, or call greater attention from others to your seemingly insoluble problem or pain is just one of many causes, I believe, in suicides.
Thank you Mesa. This is beautiful. Lovely to hear your voice.
Thanks so much Anna ❤️❤️
Thank you for sharing this and for this podcast! I’m grateful to not be in a place of suicidal ideation but still this list helped me ground into gratitude. I’m sure you will help a lot of people!
Thank you Natasha!! ❤️❤️
Love you so much! Thank you 😭❤️
It's absolutely hard to be optimistic when our brains tend towards negativity, it's the amygdala that gets us when we're not able to see beyond the moment we might be in. I spent over a decade training my brain to keep myself alive. I STILL battle these thoughts.
All I can do is try to spread a little hope to anyone who needs it.